Book 5 - The Outgoing Man by Glen Neath

Probably our most interesting book club meeting so far.  Glen is a local author who many of us know - he has a son who is at nursery with some of our children.


Glen suggested a while back that we read his first book and that he would come and discuss it with our book club.  Here is a bit about it from The Independent newspaper...

Here is a first novel about a man who doesn't know why he's following orders, or whose they are, or why he is stuck in the hotel to which he has been led. He exists in an anonymous space run by anonymous authorities - who may or may not be political assassins, and who include figures with names such as X or D.

Sound familiar? Yes, The Outgoing Man is a rerun of The Trial, Kafka lite, almost completely shorn of any obvious purpose other than to take the reader on an entertaining journey through the vaguely conscious mind of its central, unnamed figure.

Technically, the novel consists of two "postcards" sent by a former "outgoing man" from some sort of safe house to an "incoming man" who has supplanted him, and who is in the process of being supplanted himself.

Almost nothing is made of this framing device. There are no chapters in the two monologues, just pauses. It's like being stuck in a lift with a deadpan comedian, waiting for a punchline that never comes. You have to keep going, or you risk losing any grip.

The book club ladies were all a bit nervous about a discussion with an author - we don't consider ourselves to be too high brow.  Glen let on though that he was also pretty nervous about being chewed up by a bunch of women who might hate his book!


None of us found it a difficult read but it was not the sort of book that any of us had ever read and we had hundreds of questions for Glen due to the fact that it didn't seem to conform to the formula of most books i.e descriptions of key characters, a beginning, middle and end - and the fact that none of us really 'got it', although most of us enjoyed reading it.


There were a number of stand-offs in the book between the main character and people he meets.  Some of the group found this annoying, and even a little uncomfortable, and others found it entertaining and amusing (me included).


What many of us had not considered before was that you actually don't have to get a book but isn't it enough that the pages you are reading are a pleasure to read and so what if it doesn't seem to have a logical sequence?  For me personally it was a bit like looking at a piece of modern art that I enjoy but don't get - as is the case with most modern art for me!  I certainly didn't really understand where the story was going in Glen's book - and in fact it turns out that he never really intended it to be a story, but I enjoyed it and for reasons I couldn't explain found it a real page turner.


So we all learned a lot about reading and to perhaps stop having an expectation on how a book should be and to just enjoy the words for how they make us feel.


We all agreed that this was our best book club so far.  It is of course a treat to be able to pose questions to the author himself, and it is unlikely we we have this opportunity again (unless we read Glens "The Fat Plan).  Everyone there was very engaged with the discussion and we exceed our obligatory 45 minutes of book chat (before allowing ourselves to digress) by far!


Glen has recommended our next book, Pig Tales, by Marie Darrieusecq - about a prostitute who turns into a pig - we really are veering well off the mainstream!!!


Delicious soup was made by Juta - recipe please?!


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Book 3 and 4: The Possibility of An Island and Eat Pray Love

Book 3: The possiblility of an Island.

Plot summary:
There are three main characters, Daniel, and two of his clones.
Daniel is a successful comedian who can't seem to enjoy life despite his wealth. He gets bored with his hedonist lifestyle, but can't escape from it either. In the meanwhile he is disgruntled with the state of current society, and philosophizes about the nature of sex and love.
His two clones live an uneventful life as hermits, in an apocalyptic background far away in the future. They live in a time where the human species is on its last legs (alternatively, on its first legs: hunter-gatherer tribes), destroyed by climate change and nuclear war. The two clones are confronted with the life of the first Daniel and have different views about their predecessor. Scattered around are the remnants of tourist resorts, cities and consumer items and some natural humans living in small tribes without any knowledge of the past or of civilization.

None of us cared to blog about this one, because we actually didn't think much of it ???
Not a thick book but I (plus a few others) somehow didn't manage to plow through this one.... It was REALLY hard work ! Well done you guys that did manage ! Not sure if it was because of the weird storyline, the long words or just me but I found this one a very difficult (and not very good) read. Somehow I got the feeling that the other members of the book club felt the same ?

Meeting was fascinating and very enjoyable as usual. We talked about the book for at least 1 hour (that's the rule) where we discussed faith, humans, purpose etc. but then we went on to discuss other things like ... life, kids, romances etc. What was the soup we had ? Tomato ??

4 weeks ago now since that meeting and I actually can not remember much of it anymore.... so if any of you other attendees have anything else to add to this, please do.

 

Book 4: Eat, Pray Love by Elizabeth Gilbert.

Story: At 32 years old, Elizabeth Gilbert was educated and had a home, a husband, and a successful career as a writer. However, she was unhappy in her marriage and often spent the night crying on her bathroom floor. In the midst of an affair, she separated from her husband and initiated a divorce, which he contested. The affair continued for some time but did not work out, leaving her devastated and alone. While writing an article on yoga vacations in Bali, she met a ninth-generation medicine man who told her she would come back and study with him. After finalizing her difficult divorce, she spent the next year traveling. She spent four months in Italy, eating and enjoying life (Eat). She spent four months in India, finding her spirituality (Pray). She ended the year in Bali, Indonesia, looking for "balance" of the two and found love (Love) in the form of a dashing Brazilian factory owner. The trip was paid for in advance from the book deal for Eat Pray Love.

What we thought: Good book, although we did find her annoying at times. The way she wrote, the way she thought and even the way she sounded (well, I think so anyway, as I only managed to get as far with the book as I did with the help of an audio version of the book......Finding time to sit down and solely read is a struggle !). Generally we all liked the Bali (Love) part of the book as we thought it was the most interesting and humane. India (Pray), we felt was a bit dull. Italy (eat) we thought was good as we do love food and we do love the Italian Language, so we could relate.

Meeting: Roaring fire. LOTS of delicious spicy butternut squash soup lovingly made by Jo. 5 attendees. Wine for non pregnant ladies and juice, or what ever it was for the pregnant ladies. Casual book talk (for well over an hour) , baby talk, bed wetting talk, labour-pain, de-worming and lice talk......... Reasonably early evening. Brilliant start of the week !
Next, we are planning to watch the movie and discuss that during our next meeting on 15th November.

And also, during the next meeting,  the author of our next book;The Outgoing Man, Glen Neath will be joining us to discuss and share some of his wisdom. How very exciting !

Ps. We are all so proud of ourselves, that we have now finished 4 books !!! Before we started the book club, we all thought we would be too busy to read but somehow we managed. Well done Girls (and a big pat on my own back, although I didn't finish The Possibility Of An Island and I didn't technically read Eat, Pray, Love as I listened to most of it....   )  !

Jo, could you share with us the recipe of your yummy soup  here ? In fact, I think we should share all soup recipes here ... after all, our meetings are as much about the soup as it is about the books, isn't it ??!

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Book 2: The Guernsey Potato and Literary Peel Pie Society

This was a lovely second meeting for our fledgling Book Club.  We had delicious Beetroot Soup provided by Zita and a long discussion about its health benefits and after effects.  All were present, apart from Tse Ching who, having suggested such a fabulous Book Club read, had forgotten to come!

The Guernsey Potato and Literary Peel Pie Society by Mary Ann Shaffer and Annie Barrows;   "January 1946: writer Juliet Ashton receives a letter from a stranger, a founding member of the Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society. And so begins a remarkable tale of the island of Guernsey during the German occupation, and of a society as extraordinary as its name."

The book was enjoyed by all members of the club and didn't provide much substance for contentious debate!  We learnt a lot about the occupation of Guernsey, the struggles of the islanders and soldiers and the plight of evacuees. There was some nostalgia for the lost art of letter writing which was beautifully done in the novel.

We spent some time planning the Club's inaugrual girls holiday educational excursion to Guernsey.

Thank you again to Ulrika for hosting such a lovely evening.

First Book - The Shack by Wm Paul Young

We have just launched our book club and had this bright idea that we'll write a few notes after each of our meetings.  Rather than passing round an old notebook we thought we'd get blogging - so here goes...

Book Club Members Present:  Ulrika, Sheri, Jo, Tze Ching, Claire, Zita, Judy


Soup:  Home made creamy tomato (almost burnt due to enthusiastic book discussion) - thanks Ulrika!


OK - first book club meeting which was very well organised by Ulrika and inspired by Jo's list of '100 Things to Do Before Dying'.


Our group didn't really know each other too well so do we opt for nice gentle chick-lit type ice breaker.  Oh no, we go straight for the controversial faith questioning #1 New York Times Best-seller (according to the cover) "The Shack".


Here is the plot - and I may have been guilty of copying this from Wikipedia....

The novel is set in the American Northwest. The main character is Mackenzie Philips, a father of five, called "Mack" by his family and friends.

Four years prior to the main events of the story, Mack takes his three youngest children on a camping trip to Wallowa Lake near Joseph, Oregon stopping atMultnomah Falls on the way. Two of his children are playing in a canoe when it flips and almost drowns Mack's son. Mack is able to save his son by leaving his youngest daughter Missy alone at their campsite. After Mack returns, he sees that Missy is missing. The police are called, and the family discovers that Missy has been abducted and murdered by a serial killer known as the "Little Ladykiller." The police find an abandoned shack in the woods where Missy was taken, but her body is never found. Mack's life sinks into what he calls "The Great Sadness."

At the beginning of the book, Mack receives a note in his mailbox from "Papa," saying that he would like to meet with Mack on that coming weekend at the shack. Mack is puzzled by the note - he has no relationship with his abusive father after Mack leaves home at age 13. He suspects that the note may be fromGod, whom his wife Nan refers to as "Papa."

Mack's family leaves to visit relatives and he goes alone to the shack, unsure of what he will see there. He arrives and finds nothing, but as he is leaving, the shack and its surroundings are supernaturally transformed into a lush and inviting scene. He enters the shack and encounters manifestations of the three persons of the Trinity. God the Father takes the form of an African American woman who calls herself Papa, Jesus Christ is a Middle-Eastern carpenter, and the Holy Spirit physically manifests itself as an Asian woman named Sarayu.

The bulk of the book narrates Mack's conversations with Papa, Jesus, and Sarayu as he comes to terms with Missy's death and his relationships with the three of them.

The book generated some feisty discussion and we quickly got to know each other very well - each other's religious beliefs - or non-beliefs, strength of faith and so on - it all became quite heated at moments but there were no complete fall outs.  The first part of the book is a harrowing read - and really hit a nerve with me as mother of young children - I had to hide a few tears behind sunglasses on the Bracknell commuter train.  The Shack was an interesting one to discuss as among us were Christian believers, a spiritualist a couple on the fence and couple of non-believer.  Even for the latter groups it threw up some really thought provoking stuff.



General opinion of the book was quite divided.  Some thought it was interesting for its thought provoking messages others found no enjoyment in it whatsoever.



The soup was delicious though and it was great to meet a new group of friends.



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